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Mermaid Sailor
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Mermaid Sailor
Jeannie Wrecked, Bannon Arrested!
Jeannie 71 was wrecked during Mermaid Week some years ago.Where, when and how?
What other boat was damaged at the same time?
A key component of Jeannie (not foils or spars) was built into another boat. Name the item and the boat.
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Clare
I think the year was 1996 she broke her mooring and came up under the quay the other boat was 186 My Di. I knew it was the year Wexford flooded
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Mermaid Sailor
Claire, the other boat was 186 MyDi, damaged at her first championship but in 1997, not 1996. Roger Bannon had to swap into 76 Helen and nearly got arrested while ‘collecting’ Helen from John Davies garage, but that’s another story.
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Roger Bannon
It was Endeavour we went back to Dublin to collect from John Davies to whom she had been lent. I was arrested by the local Gardai when trying to remove her from John’s garage.
Eventually all was explained and we got back to Wexford at 1.30am in the morning to be greeted by a huge crowd who helped to rig the boat. The following morning many of the leading lights in the class refused to go on the water, delaying racing until Endeavour was ready to be launched. Endeavour went on to finish 2nd beaten by the smallest possible margin by Zuleika when Derek managed to pass 7 boats on the last leg of the last race to beat us by a 1/4 point after we had won the last race by 6 minutes.
There was a memorable last night which culminated in Jim Dempsey, Derek Joyce and myself drinking a bottle of Black Bush as the dawn broke after demolishing many bottles of champagne which had been given by me to all that had helped to save MYDi that awful night when she ended up on the rocks in front of the Talbot Hotel. I well recall that Jim Dempsey nearly broke his leg trying to protect the boat and it was Peter Scallen skill in a powerful rib which eventually saved the day and avoided a total loss.
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Patrick
Her centre case is in my boat.
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Patrick Boardman
Sorry Thumbalina 26
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Mermaid Sailor
I didn’t think you’d miss this one Patrick – you’re correct of course.
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Mermaid Sailor
The Annual General Meeting was well attended with 32 present.
Tralee Bay Sailing Club at Fenit has been confirmed as the venue for Mermaid Week 2011, 30th July to 5th August.
Two applications in for Mermaid Week 2012 – Howth Yacht Club and Skerries Sailing Club. Galway Bay Sailing Club unable to host in 2012 due to a clash with the Volvo Ocean Race, but Galway may be a possibility for 2013. Jim Dempsey spoke, making the case for Skerries, particularly the possibility of a large fleet. Meeting voted in favour of Skerries by a large majority.
Proposed rule change: to permit mainsail without reefing points. Meeting approved the rule change. Further discussion on minimum size of mainsail – committee to examine the issue and revert. (See also commentary on Technical Forum from Roger Bannon and Des McWilliam.)
Youth Championship. Numbers have dropped in recent years – letter from Rush Sailing Club, suggesting change, particularly as the event is dominated by Rush sailors. RSC is unwilling to continue in the same format. Suggestion to move the event to a more central date in the season, avoiding exams. Another suggestion is to change to another type of event, such as the Rush Invitation Event (popularly known as Peter Dunne’s Potato Race). The option of changing to a team event or match racing event was discussed. Committee to discuss and revert.
Weighing of boats – a fleet wide weighing exercise will be conducted is season, with the load cell to be circulated around clubs. Class measurer to supervise.
Boom construction. Meeting considered laminated spars. Class Measurer to recommend rule changes – see also Roger Bannon’s comments on the Technical Forum. Committee to make and publish interim ruling on interpretation of the whether or not the rules allow laminated spars, before the racing season.
The Blue Book is being revised. Please send your suggestions to secretary@dublinbaymermaid.org. See also the Blue Book thread in the Technical Forum. You can also down load the Blue Book on the Downloads page.
AGM Concluded.
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Mermaid Sailor
What happened next?
What happened next?
Do you know what happened just after this photo was taken?
Where? When? Name any significant boats. Explain circumstances…..
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clare
Much too easy Peter I will never forget but will leave this one to someone else
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Mermaid Sailor
Thought you’d remember this one Clare!
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Mermaid Sailor
AGM – Other Business
What would you like to see discussed at the AGM on 23rd February?.
(If your comment is on Boom Construction, National Champs 2011 & 2012, Youth Champs, Mainsail Reefing or Boat Weighing please comment on the appropriate post and not this one).
Add your comments by clicking on Reply above right. Ensure that your name and/or boat is identified in your comment. Anonymous and offensive comments will be removed.
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Seafox
I would like to see the qualifing criteria for the designer class addressed. As it stands any boat that did not sail in the championships the previous year is eligible to compete for the designer trophy.(I think this is right)
If one or two of the faster boats miss a championship or two and returns the following year, it gives us “genuinely slow boats” no chance of winning.-
Alanna141
Designer Tankard elibility: “All boats and helms excluding the top 25 boats and top 25 helms in Mermaid Championships 2010. Also excluded are Mermaid Champion 2006 – 2009, Daphne Winner 2011 and Mermaid Champion 2011.”. Perhaps this could be extended to exclude Top 5 boats/helms from previous 5 Championships.
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Seafox
Unfortunately I will be unable to attend the AGM tonight. In this age of tehnology would it be worth considering some kind of link to the meeting via Skype or some other means that would allow us members that can’t attend to have a vote. I would like this to be considered tonight with a view to setting up something for next years AGM.
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Mermaid Sailor
Conor, I’ll pass on your comment at the AGM. Check in here for commentary from AGM
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Three Chevrons
I agree with Sea Fox. The Designer Tankard should be a prize for boats that are slower for one reason or the other. It would give that part of the fleet something to race for at the Nationals. Finishing positions of boats over the previous three years should be considered. If a boat is absent from the nationals then their previous finishing position should be taken into consideration. It is disheartening for slower boats at the nationals when the crew are checking the daily results for the Designer and see boats that would normally be in the top 15 getting results in the Designer class. I propose a review of the qualifying criteria for the different trophy’s.
Vincent
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Mermaid Sailor
AGM – Championship 2011 – FENIT
Tralee Bay and Mount Brandon
At the AGM on 23rd Feb, the Venue for National Championship 2011 is on the Agenda. The location this year will be Fenit.
What are your views?
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Mermaid Sailor
Fenit is possibly my favourite M.Week venue. Looking forward to returning this year.
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Roger Bannon
The best race track in the country for sailboat racing.
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Seafox
Fenit must be the second best place to hold the nationals. Looking forward to it already.
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Therese McHugh
Cant wait for Fenit. My favourite place for Mermaid Week…. ROll on Aug 2011
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Alanna141
Second best – does the best place happen to be a place with strong tides and bars that don’t close?
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Seafox
Never noticed the tides but the bars definately don’t close.
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Mermaid Sailor
AGM – Championship 2012 – HOWTH, SKERRIES or GALWAY
Howth Harbour and Marina
At the AGM on 23rd Feb, the Venue for National Championship 2012 is on the Agenda. The location next year could be be Howth, Skerries or Galway.
What are your views?
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paddy dillon
this will be a great venue. this is one of the best clubs in the country and run
excellent events. eg: etchell worlds last year and the upcoming J24 europeans and worlds over the next two years, this is the type of club we need to have our mermaid nationals -
Seafox
Does it tick all the boxes?
Sailing: yes
Camping: ?
Parking: ?
Late Bar: ?
Good Craic: ?
Cheap Drink: ?I don’t know anything about Howth just asking.
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paddy
Camping : NO
Parking : YES
Late bar : I don’t think so
Good craic : The mermaiders make there own craic
Cheap drink : It’s ok
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kinearly
Should we not be holding the championship in the clubs that still have mermaids to try and increase interest in the class, last year i sailed in Skerries and we averaged only 4 boats every week (clontarf averaged 0 boats) a lot of boats just get wet for the championship and dont see the water from one end of the year to the next, maybe present format is incorrect and needs to be reviewed. just a thought.
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Roger Bannon
We should avoid Dublin based locations as the true spirit of Mermaid Week only emerges when we travel and make it a holiday. As the prior corrospondent correctly points out, club based Mermaid saling virtually is non existent so we depend on good events, notably the Championships to get the boats out of the garage for a few days use each year. Consequently it is important we pick good holiday locations.
Whilst Howth can provide great sailing facilities, outstanding race management and has a decent if somewhat atmospherically cold clubhouse, I do not think it will make a good location for a championships because:
It is Dublin Based with poor and expensive accomodation options for travelling boats.
It is a long sail to the racing area.
They are very formal and structured when hosting an event with lots of rules and regulations.
It would be an unattractive location if the weather is light with strong tides.
The harbour is tricky to get in and out of when the weather is light.
It lacks most of the essential ingredients to generate the typical Mermaid Week craic which is so important.We should not go the Skerries as it has been used to frequently as a location and “it is Dublin based”.
Galway is great location, particularly if the boats were to be based in the city harbour. We did an event last year with the SB3s and it was acknowledged as one of the best events ever held in the class. The sailing area is 1 mile from the harbour and has fair tides with regular breeze uninterrupted by any adjacent land mass.
The craic in the city is wonderful and camping facilities are readily available either in Oranmore or nearer the city The club now has a vibrant membership base with good race management skills and support boats. Accomodation is plentiful and inexpensive.
Moving to the city harbour would avoid the hassle of sailing in and out of Oranmore and provide ready access to exellent sailing waters which are much better than that available near Oranmore.
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Vincent Mc Cormack
I like Clifden, Co Galway for the nationals in 2012. I’ve sailed there before at cruiser events and it’s a great place to sail. The club there are looking for a national event for next year. It definitely ticks all the box’s for Sea Fox as well having beautiful scenery and a holiday town that’s really buzzing in August.
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Mermaid Sailor
I also like the idea of Clifden, having done an event there years ago. It’s great craic and the sailing area would suit Mermaids. The only drawback is that it’s a long haul from the east coast, particularly the bad road from Galway to Clifden. However the motorway from Dublin to Galway more than makes up for this.
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Mermaid Sailor
AGM – Youth Championship
At the AGM in February the Format for Youth Championship will be discussed.
What are your views?
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Mermaid Sailor
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paddy dillon
zuelka 187 Des Terrell launched 2002
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Mermaid Sailor
Yes it’s Zuleika No.187 built by Des Tyrell, but 2002 is not the year!
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paddy dillon
Don’t know what I was thinking the years are going by to fast I must be getting on. Lunched in Skerries 1996
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Mermaid Sailor
That’s right – 1996, same age as one of her crew!
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Mermaid Sailor
Techy question!
How long is the mast?
This one is for the real Mermaid nerds!
What is the maximum length of the mast? (Answer in Imperial rather than Metric – this is Mermaids afterall!)
And for bonus points – where should the two coloured bands be?
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Clare
The max lenght is 24′ 10” and the bands should be 3′ 10” above heel of mast and the lower edge of the upper band shall not be higher than 19′ 10” above the uppr edge of the lower mast bend
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Mermaid Sailor
Clare, you’ve clearly been swotting up on the ‘Blue Book’. New challenge coming up, in the meantime, the Blue Book is downloadable – http://www.dublinbaymermaid.org/downloads/MermaidSpecification2007.pdf. It needs some updating though, see Roger’s comments on the Technical Blog.
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Mermaid Sailor
What boat is this?
Do you know this boat? Name and number please
Name and number of this boat?
Paddy's correct - this boat is Fugitive 146
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Paddy Dillon
no.146 Fugitive
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Mermaid Sailor
That’s correct Paddy. A bigger challenge coming up!
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Mermaid Sailor
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Clare
No 11 Oonagh
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Mermaid Sailor
No to both 11 Oonagh and 26 Thumbalina!
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patrick
Thumbalina 26 just because I don’t want to get caught out.
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paddy dillon
seria no 38
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paddy dillon
syrena no 38
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Mermaid Sailor
Correct. It is Syrena. She has a distinctive shape to her planks below the waterline!
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Mermaid Sailor
New Mermaid Technical Forum
There’s a new Mermaid Technical Forum available, click Technical Forum on the menu above. The existing Mermaid Blog will be reserved for Racing, Social, Fun and MSA items and discussion. If you feel that there should be another specialist forum, please suggest one by clicking Reply above right.
The New Technical Form can be reached by clicking Technical Forum on the menu at the top of any page in the Mermaid Website
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Roger Bannon
Comment on paint/varnish restoration moved to WOODWORK MAINTENANCE thread on the TECHNICIAL FORUM
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Mermaid Sailor
Ants Weldon reckons that harvesting sprouts in –10⁰C has affected his brain as he now owns three Mermaids. He’s looking for a cure for fellows in a loft hammering and sawing and mixing glue while everyone is at home beside the fire watching XFactor.
Suggestions please (click reply above right).
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kinearly
Hi i currently restoring a mermaid and would love to have a look or even lend a hand, good to hear there are still mermaids under construction. Keep up the good work. Regards Alan
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Mermaid Sailor
Alan,
Please email your contact details to web@dublinbaymermaid.org and I’ll pass them on to Ants, Enda and Paddy.
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paddy dillon
Hi Peter it is Paddy Archer who is building with the Weldon Brothers not me.
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Mermaid Sailor
Sorry Paddy, I’ve corrected this on the News section of website.
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Patrick
Ant’s will be a force to be reckoned with this year.
I see he even has Bredan and Des out training.Watch out fleet!
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Mermaid Sailor
Another Mystery Boat!
Guess this boat - name and number please
Showing a little bit more of this mystery boat!
Elizabeth No. 36
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paddy dillon
don’t know but i think the photo is in clontraf
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Mermaid Sailor
Paddy, yes the photo is in Clontarf. The angle of the shear strake on this boat is distinctive, also note the deck width.
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Mermaid Sailor
While the photo is in Clontarf, the boat is not from Clontarf.
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Clare
No 17 but cant remember the name
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Clare
Changd my mind it is no 18 Clare
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Mermaid Sailor
It’s neither 17 Maeve nor 18 Claire!
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kinearly
Is it Celia No.5, also any possibilty of an open forum i am restoring a mermaid at the moment and would appreciate some questions answered by mermaid sailors, cheers
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Mermaid Sailor
Kinearly – no it’s not Celia No. 5. Hint – the boat carries a girl’s name!
Good point on open forum. I’ll put one together. In the meantime check out the Akita page via GALLERY
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kinearly
Check it out !!!! i printed it off and now know it backwards,
Sean Rooney, Joe Boylan, Jim Dempsey, Paul Winters & Sam Shiels have all patient and generous with the time and knowledge without them dont think we would have got so far. Roll on 2011 season.-
Mermaid Sailor
But do you know the boat?
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Patrick
Can you make it that we can enlarge the image?
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Clare
As it is a girls name would it be no 76 Helen as Jill would normally sail over from Dun Laoghaire and would not be on the hard
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Mermaid Sailor
It’s not Helen!
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Mermaid Sailor
Sorry Patrick, that’s all you get – do you want to make it too easy?
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paddy dillon
Aideen 113
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Mermaid Sailor
Paddy, it’s neither 113 Una C, nor is it 21 Aideen!
Nor is it a clubmate of either of these two boats……
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paddy dillon
Deirdre no. 90
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Mermaid Sailor
Not Deirdre! The late Peter Dunne would be shocked at the thought, particularly when you realise which boat is in the photo.
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Patrick
Did she compete in the last 2 championships?
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kinearly
Elizabeth No 36
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Mermaid Sailor
Well done Alan. It’s Elizabeth. She has a slightly different shape on the Shear Strake, due to modifications where she was widened. All legal I’m assured!
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Clare
Is it 77 Tiller Girl, but dont think it loks like her trailer
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Patrick
166 Isadora
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Patrick
93 Swallow
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Patrick
Elizabet No 36
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Mermaid Sailor
Too late Patrick – Alan was there before you!
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Mermaid Sailor
Name this Boat!
Another one, a little more difficult this time.
What's the name and number of this Mermaid?
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Clare Carthy
Eimear Aris
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Mermaid Sailor
Well done Clare. What’s the sail number?
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Darren
57
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Mermaid Sailor
Yes, No. 57 Eimear Aris (also know as Aille and Eimear in the past was built in 1957 by N. Boden.
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Mermaid Sailor
Name this Boat
Here’s a view of the transom of a well known boat – she’s fast too, the transom is the most common view that most Mermaiders have of this boat.
Name and Number of this Boat?
Here's the full pic: No. 73 Lively Lady in Foynes, June 2010
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Niall
That has to be Cara II, 135 no?
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Mermaid Sailor
Sorry Niall, try again!
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Jubilee
Would it be Vee, 123 – Rush?
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Roisin
Thats Lively Lady, 73
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Mermaid Sailor
Well done Roisin, it’s 73 Lively Lady, probably the fastest boat never to have won a Championship.
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Patrick
Innocence 188
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Mermaid Sailor
Paddy, well done again!
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Mermaid Sailor
How well do you know your Mermaids?
There’s a new mast head on the Mermaid website – what boat is it?
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paddy
JILL : Mermaid week in Rush 2008
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Mermaid Sailor
Well done Paddy – new challenge coming up!
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paddy dillon
Kevin Therese Mc Huge and Tall Paul in Helen
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Mermaid Sailor
Spot on Paddy!
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Paul Smith
Sorry I didn’t see this earlier. Obviously the first Paddy at 23:38 is correct, Paddy Dillon at 23:46 is wrong. And I still don’t see the three crew named!
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Kim, 
Roger Bannon, 
Patrick, and 1 other are discussing. 
clare are discussing. 
Seafox, 
Three Chevrons, and 1 other are discussing. 
Alanna141, 
Therese McHugh, and 2 others are discussing. 
paddy dillon are discussing. 
Darren, and 
Roisin, 
Jubilee, and 1 other are discussing. 
Paul Smith, 
Clare 14:48 on 18 February 2011 Permalink |
Zest 100
Mermaid Sailor 15:16 on 18 February 2011 Permalink |
It’s not Zest!
kinearly 23:29 on 19 February 2011 Permalink
Is it Nicah 114 or Jessie 87 as it looks like Harry skippering
Mermaid Sailor 19:22 on 20 February 2011 Permalink
Neither Nichapando 114, nor Jessie (also Reckless) 87.
Clare 18:49 on 22 February 2011 Permalink |
Is it 54 Hycilla
Mermaid Sailor 18:53 on 22 February 2011 Permalink |
It’s not Hycilla! Photo is in Wexford, early 1970′s where it was based at the time.
Clare 19:59 on 22 February 2011 Permalink
Is it 46 Argo
Mermaid Sailor 21:53 on 22 February 2011 Permalink
Not Argo, she’s a little younger.
Clare 22:23 on 22 February 2011 Permalink |
Would the boat be based in Wexford again
Mermaid Sailor 00:34 on 23 February 2011 Permalink |
The boat hasn’t been in Wexford for years. By the way it’s a girl’s name….
kinearly 00:09 on 23 February 2011 Permalink |
Is it Sea Wytch 150
Mermaid Sailor 00:32 on 23 February 2011 Permalink |
Not ‘Sea Wytch’, this boat is older than the Wytch
Clare 16:41 on 23 February 2011 Permalink
Is it 71 Jeannie
Mermaid Sailor 19:16 on 23 February 2011 Permalink
Nearly there Clare, but it’s not Jeannie and unlike poor old Jeannie, this boat is still ‘alive’.
Mermaid Sailor 01:52 on 24 February 2011 Permalink |
Following suggestions from various MSA members at the AGM this mystery boat is not 76 Helen, 161 Pearl, 113 Una C, 141 Alanna. This boat was very well known in her day, originally associated with Skerries, but more recently NYC.
So, keep guessing!
Roger Bannon 09:55 on 24 February 2011 Permalink |
Is it Tijuana.
Mermaid Sailor 14:11 on 24 February 2011 Permalink
No, it’s not Tijuana!
Clare 16:43 on 24 February 2011 Permalink
is it 73 lively lady
Mermaid Sailor 20:28 on 24 February 2011 Permalink
No Clare, it’s not 73 Lively Lady and before you ask, it’s not 77 Tiller Girl, therefore eliminating all four Grieves brothers boats. To quote Paul Smith in his book, this boat doesn’t have the fine lines of a professionally built boat such as 131 Paula or the Grieves boats.
She was built together with five other Mermaids as part of the same project.
Clare 14:06 on 25 February 2011 Permalink |
Is it 645 Orla
Clare 14:07 on 25 February 2011 Permalink |
Sorry should be 65
Mermaid Sailor 17:00 on 25 February 2011 Permalink |
It’s not Orla 65…..
Mermaid Sailor 17:58 on 25 February 2011 Permalink |
This one seems to be challenging even the most knowledgeable in the fleet. Here’s another clue:
“I’m not Kim, but I have two things in common with Kim”.
By the way – Clare has given up on this challenge!
kinearly 19:54 on 27 February 2011 Permalink |
is it Jean, built in the barkyard in skerries by Joe Acton No 80
Mermaid Sailor 03:25 on 28 February 2011 Permalink |
Very close Alan, nearly there!
jim 20:11 on 27 February 2011 Permalink |
81Rosalie
Mermaid Sailor 03:20 on 28 February 2011 Permalink |
Jim, at last somebody got this boat. It’s Rosalie No 81, one of the Skerries Barkyard Boats from 1953, nos 80 to 85.
Two things in common with Kim, what are they?
Kim 21:20 on 3 March 2011 Permalink
they were both owned by Barry Neill and 81 in number
Mermaid Sailor 10:17 on 4 March 2011 Permalink
Spot on! Another challenge coming up.